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c/trialwatch·submitted 20 days ago by u/pancreatitis_scare

[Stats] number needed to treat, or i am not interested

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number needed to treat, or i am not interested, and I am aware this is a minority view on this board. Read a press release and the publication three months apart. The hedging in the second one was substantial. Compared myself to a trial mean for about six months before realising the trial arm had dietitian contact…

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u/draw_up_dizzy74 points·19 days ago

Argued for a week about a result and then read the limitations section, which conceded most of my opponent’s point.

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u/hub_opssite staff-30 points·19 days ago

Small fix — that was the cardiovascular outcomes trial, so weight was a secondary endpoint and the population was different.

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u/eu_apotheke_a1 point·19 days ago

Spent an evening with the appendix tables and found the subgroup detail that the entire thread had been speculating about.

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u/pancreatitis_scareOP1 point·19 days ago

Correction: SURMOUNT is the obesity programme and SURPASS is the diabetes one. The figure you quoted belongs to the other one.

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u/hamza_zielinski1 point·19 days ago

That is the 68-week readout, not the 72-week one. Different trial, different duration.

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u/hugo_bergstrom1 point·19 days ago

registry entry, protocol, publication — three different documents

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