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c/scamalerts·submitted 1 year ago by u/britta_boateng

[PSA] fraud is not what most of this community thinks it is

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The one-line version is the title: fraud is not what most of this community thinks it is. The rest is why. Never name an individual. The sidebar rule exists because the cost of being wrong falls on a person and the benefit of being right falls on nobody in particular. Asked a new shop for a batch-specific certificate…

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u/archived_thread_a421 points·1 year ago

Why this board insists on dates and documents rather than names.

A report that says "X is a scam" is unfalsifiable and unactionable. A report that says "ordered on this date, paid this way, asked for a batch document on this date, received this reply, nothing since" can be checked, corroborated, or corrected by somebody with a different experience.

The second kind has repeatedly turned out to be a shipping problem, a payment window, or a misread email. The first kind never turns into anything except an argument, and when it is wrong the cost falls on somebody real.

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[removed]303 points·1 year ago

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u/neha_mwangi436 points·1 year ago

Lost money once, years ago, to a shop that pushed hard for a decision the same day. Every time I see that pressure now I close the tab.

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u/britta_boatengOP311 points·1 year ago

Small fix — the name you are describing is in the wider-market table with almost nothing on file, not in the documented twenty.

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u/priya_palacios174 points·1 year ago

Yes. The thin-evidence names in the directory are thin because nobody has anything on them, which is a different statement from a warning.

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u/aksel_jansen209 points·1 year ago

never accuse an individual, describe what happened to you

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u/britta_boatengOP121 points·1 year ago

That is a report count, not a test count, and it changes how thin the evidence base actually is.

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u/soren_yildiz291 points·1 year ago

pressure to decide today is the oldest signal there is

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u/farid_kuipers319 points·1 year ago

Why this board insists on dates and documents rather than names.

Disagreeing here: that is a delay, and this board has to keep delay and intent in separate columns.

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u/stubborn_batchlist_pls201 points·1 year ago

ask for a batch-specific document before you send anything

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