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c/scamalerts·posted 1 year ago by u/camila_sandvik

[Discussion] the fraud advice in here is 2 years out of date

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the fraud advice in here is 2 years out of date. It is the sort of thing everyone half-believes and nobody writes down.

Hard numbers: 2 years. Anything softer than that is flagged as an impression.

Was in a group buy that went quiet for six weeks. It resolved in the end, but the structure meant I had no visibility and no recourse the whole time.

Asked a new shop for a batch-specific certificate before ordering. The reply was a generic catalogue page. I did not order.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/ghrp_history0 points·1 year ago

Why this board insists on dates and documents rather than names.

A report that says "X is a scam" is unfalsifiable and unactionable. A report that says "ordered on this date, paid this way, asked for a batch document on this date, received this reply, nothing since" can be checked, corroborated, or corrected by somebody with a different experience.

The second kind has repeatedly turned out to be a shipping problem, a payment window, or a misread email. The first kind never turns into anything except an argument, and when it is wrong the cost falls on somebody real.

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u/RetaAndRegret226 points·1 year ago·edited

The site had a decade of testimonials and a domain registered in March. That was the entire investigation.

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u/camila_sandvikOP18 points·1 year ago

Correcting my own post: the payment date was the 14th, not the 4th. The gap is smaller than I made it sound.

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u/ewan_zielinski38 points·1 year ago

Never name an individual. The sidebar rule exists because the cost of being wrong falls on a person and the benefit of being right falls on nobody in particular.

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u/fatima_yildiz18 points·1 year ago

Went looking for independent results on Limitless Life after seeing them named three times in a week. Found nothing verifiable in either direction.

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u/milan_villalobos11 points·1 year ago

A report is useful here when it carries dates, the exact domain, what was requested, what arrived and what did not. Everything else is atmosphere.

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u/camila_sandvikOP6 points·1 year ago·edited

the pattern repeats because it works, not because people are stupid

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u/anders_osei3 points·1 year ago

Small fix — the name you are describing is in the wider-market table with almost nothing on file, not in the documented twenty.

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u/reflux_report14 points·1 year ago

Do you have anything in writing from before the payment?

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u/customs_seizure_sid16 points·1 year ago·edited

That is an accusation about a named individual and it does not belong here in any form.

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u/mikkel_ogunleye12 points·1 year ago

Now I buy small from anyone new, test it, and only then commit. It has cost me a few small orders and saved me one large one.

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u/ferritin_low6 points·1 year ago

Now I buy small from anyone new, test it, and only then commit.

Disagreeing here: that is a delay, and this board has to keep delay and intent in separate columns.

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u/zaid_eriksen8 points·1 year ago

Disagreeing here: that is a delay, and this board has to keep delay and intent in separate columns.

ferritin_low has the group-buy risk right — it is structural, not a judgement about anybody in particular.

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u/chidi_vermeulen9 points·1 year ago

if the price is impossible, the material is the thing being economised on

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u/naomi_erdogan8 points·1 year ago

Not convinced. A payment window that closed is a payment window, not evidence of intent.

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u/ines_ekstrom4 points·1 year ago

Same. A batch-specific document requested before payment costs nothing and filters an enormous amount.

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution-34 points·1 year ago

Push back: "nobody has tested them" is a fact about this board, not a fact about the company. Say the first one.

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u/nikhil_teixeira3 points·1 year ago

The directory deliberately separates "we have nothing on this name" from "this went badly". Collapsing the two is how boards like this generate false certainty.

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