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c/reconstitution·posted 1 year ago by u/spain_receta

[Discussion] we are measuring units at the wrong time and calling it noise

Discussion Clean Column ×3 Cold Box ×2 Long Haul ×2

we are measuring units at the wrong time and calling it noise. Not a hot take, just something I have not seen said plainly here.

Adding more water does not change how much peptide is in the vial. It changes the concentration, which changes the volume you draw for the same amount. That is the entire relationship.

Why "more water" keeps confusing people, including me for a month.

The vial contains a fixed amount of peptide. Water changes nothing about that amount. What it changes is concentration, and concentration is the divisor between the dose you want and the volume you draw.

So doubling the water halves the concentration and doubles the units for the same dose. Nothing is diluted in any sense that matters; you are simply reading a bigger number off the same barrel. Pick the water volume that puts your usual dose on a whole number of units and life gets easier.

The failure modes I have actually seen posted here, in order of frequency.

One: reconstituting at a different volume than intended and not writing it down, so the next draw is based on a remembered concentration. Two: treating units as a dose rather than a volume, which breaks the moment the concentration changes. Three: assuming a syringe is U-100 when it is not.

All three are solved by the same two habits — do the arithmetic before the water goes in, and write the result on the glass. Neither costs anything and between them they cover almost every question this board gets.

Sceptical readings welcome. The confident ones are the ones I distrust.

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u/julia_erdogan767 points·1 year ago

Bacteriostatic water contains benzyl alcohol as a preservative, which is what makes repeated entry into the same vial reasonable. Plain sterile water has no preservative.

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u/saskia_mwangi532 points·1 year ago

Did the maths give you a whole number of units, or a fraction?

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u/karim_ilunga192 points·1 year ago

label the vial with the date as well as the concentration

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u/spain_recetaOP100 points·1 year ago

bacteriostatic water has the preservative, sterile water does not

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u/vial_math_veraMOD543 points·1 year ago

Corrected the concentration in the title, which contradicted the body. Nothing else touched.

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u/viktor_kirchner-9 points·1 year ago

units are a volume on a U-100 syringe, not a dose

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u/priya_weiss1 point·1 year ago

Careful — that arithmetic is wrong. 5mg in 2mL is 2.5mg/mL, so 2mg draws to 80 units, not what you wrote.

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u/spain_recetaOP1 point·1 year ago

5mg into 3mL is 1.67mg/mL, and 1.5mg of that is 90 units

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u/kavya_radich1 point·1 year ago

Show the arithmetic — where did the unit figure come from?

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u/arto_falk1 point·1 year ago

do the arithmetic before you reconstitute, not while holding a syringe

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u/signe_grimaldi467 points·1 year ago

the number you write down is the number you will trust at 6am

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u/marta_weiss162 points·1 year ago

Yes, and the dead-space point is worth repeating: it is small, it is real, and it is the same for every draw.

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u/sofia_danquah603 points·1 year ago

more water is not more drug, it is the same drug in a bigger volume

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