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c/orforglipron·submitted 1 year ago by u/flair_enthusiast

my TSH moved and I cannot work out whether ACHIEVE is why

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my TSH moved and I cannot work out whether ACHIEVE is why — a position I have arrived at slowly and would like tested. What is actually known, and what is being assumed. Known: it is a small-molecule GLP-1 receptor agonist, dosed daily, with clinical programmes reporting in both obesity and type 2 diabetes. Its…

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u/deleted_my_history33 points·1 year ago

Agreed that phase 3 is where the comparison becomes fair. Everything before it is inference.

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u/flair_enthusiastOP24 points·1 year ago

ATTAIN and ACHIEVE are the programmes to keep straight

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u/gustav_solberg6 points·1 year ago

The no-timing-restriction thing is the part I would care about most in practice, and it barely gets mentioned here.

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u/incretin_ivypharmacology4 points·1 year ago

The no-timing-restriction thing is the part I would care about most in practice, and it barely gets mentioned here.

Disagreeing with this bit: daily dosing is a different adherence problem, not a better one.

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u/whois_wanda5 points·1 year ago

Daily rather than weekly sounds trivial until you think about what a missed dose means in each case.

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u/aksel_kjaer39 points·1 year ago

Milligram comparisons across molecule classes are meaningless. Potency is a property of the molecule at its receptor, not of the number on the label.

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u/viktor_laurent17 points·1 year ago

Disagree. You are comparing doses across a small molecule and a peptide, which is not a comparison of anything.

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u/piotr_bruun23 points·1 year ago

Which programme and which readout are you quoting?

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u/ewan_hovland6 points·1 year ago

the manufacturing story is genuinely different from the injectables

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