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c/glp1uk·posted 2 years ago by u/gustav_solberg

the pricing thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down

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the pricing thing finally clicked for me and I want to write it down. Not a hot take, just something I have not seen said plainly here.

A private prescription is an independent route: it does not affect NHS list position, and it is not a step in the same pathway.

Why the monthly pricing tracker works, and the rule that makes it work.

Members post the pharmacy, the product, the month and the price they actually paid — not an advertised offer, not a first-month discount. No links of any kind are permitted, which removes the entire incentive to post anything other than what happened.

The result is that the spread between pharmacies in a given month is visible, and it is consistently larger than people expect. That single table has saved members here more money than every other thread on the board combined, and it survives only because the no-links rule is enforced without exception.

Discharge at goal, which nobody warns people about.

Specialist services in England are commissioned to deliver a defined intervention. Reaching goal is a successful outcome and it typically ends with discharge back to primary care. Whether prescribing continues after that is a local decision that varies, and plenty of members here have discovered it at the point of discharge rather than at the start.

The useful thing to do is ask early: what happens when I finish, and does prescribing continue in primary care in this area. Ask it in writing, keep the answer, and you will at least know which conversation you are heading for.

Sceptical readings welcome. The confident ones are the ones I distrust.

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u/lane_watcherMOD259 points·2 years ago

Pharmacy staff name removed. The pharmacy itself can be named in a pricing post.

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u/nhs_waitlist_nUK112 points·2 years ago

specialist service, not GP, for tier 3 in most of England

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u/gustav_solbergOP69 points·2 years ago

Have you seen the current threshold published by your ICB?

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u/vitamin_d_void160 points·2 years ago·edited

In England, specialist weight management services are commissioned locally, so eligibility criteria and waiting times differ by ICB. There is no single national threshold to quote.

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u/diego_almeida66 points·2 years ago

How long have you been on the list, and from what date?

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u/emil_marchand84 points·2 years ago

Same. My ICB threshold was different from the neighbouring one and nobody could tell me why.

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u/marisol_moreau22 points·2 years ago

the price difference between pharmacies this month is genuinely large

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u/gustav_solbergOP16 points·2 years ago

Small fix — that is the Scottish pathway. The post is asking about England and the answer is different.

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u/pavel_kravchenko52 points·2 years ago

ask the pharmacy for the price list, not the headline offer

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u/adaeze_krastev37 points·2 years ago

an online consultation that asks you nothing is not a consultation

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u/a1c_arcT2D29 points·2 years ago

tier 3 waiting lists are measured in years, not months

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u/emeka_beaulieu39 points·2 years ago

Right, and reading the actual supply notice rather than the coverage of it saves a fortnight of speculation.

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u/gustav_solbergOP28 points·2 years ago

Correcting myself: the referral was 5 months ago, not the figure I gave. I keep rounding it down.

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u/nordic_pricing9 points·2 years ago

discharge at goal back to the GP is where a lot of people fall over

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u/ms_fragmenter13 points·2 years ago

Which pharmacy, and what did they quote for the month rather than the first month?

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u/ireland_drugs_pay26 points·2 years ago

Agreed. The ICB variation is the thing that makes national advice useless here.

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u/pavel_kravchenko20 points·2 years ago

the Irish scheme cap is the single most useful fact in this board

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u/marisol_moreau8 points·2 years ago

Correction: that threshold is your ICB’s, not a national one. They differ and they change by year.

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u/priya_guerrero26 points·2 years ago

Four pharmacies, four prices, same product, same month. The spread was larger than I expected and none of them were the headline offer.

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u/marit_coelho19 points·2 years ago·edited

Four pharmacies, four prices, same product, same month.

Agreed — and keeping the letters with dates is what makes any later challenge possible.

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u/omar_eriksen16 points·2 years ago

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own arrangements. An answer that begins with "in England" should say so, and most of the confusion here comes from answers that do not.

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u/crp_curious5 points·2 years ago·edited

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own arrangements.

omar_eriksen is right that the two routes are separate. A private prescription does not move you up the list.

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u/dhl_or_bust12 points·2 years ago

The two routes, described separately, because mixing them is where most of the confusion here starts.

The NHS route in England runs through specialist weight management services commissioned by your ICB. Criteria, waiting times and what happens at discharge are all local decisions, which is why a confident answer from somebody in a different area may be wrong for you.

The private route is an independent transaction: a consultation, a prescription and a pharmacy price. It does not affect your position on any NHS list and it is not a shortcut through one. Both are legitimate; they are simply not the same pathway and they do not connect.

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u/rt_shift_reggie10 points·2 years ago·edited

NHS pathway or private prescription?

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u/tomas_broberg-5 points·2 years ago

Supply notices from the regulator describe expected availability at a national level. They do not predict what any individual pharmacy has on the shelf next week.

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