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c/glp1science·submitted 9 months ago by u/yannick_barros

[PSA] gastric emptying is not what most of this community thinks it is

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Short public-service post: gastric emptying is not what most of this community thinks it is. GLP-1 receptor agonism acts both peripherally — insulin secretion in a glucose-dependent way, slowed gastric emptying — and centrally, on appetite regulation. The central component is the better explanation for sustained…

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u/rina_bergstrom49 points·9 months ago

Was completely wrong about the gastric emptying story in a thread here two years ago. Someone corrected me with a citation and I have not made that mistake since.

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u/swirl_dont_shakereconstitution25 points·9 months ago

Disagree. That is a preclinical finding in a rodent model and you are stating it as human pharmacology.

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u/rina_bergstrom15 points·9 months ago·edited

Disagree.

Disagreeing with this specific inference — that is a preclinical result being read as human pharmacology.

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u/plain_titration11 points·9 months ago

a mechanism you can state is not a mechanism you have demonstrated

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u/elodie_grimaldi3 points·9 months ago

albumin binding is most of the half-life story

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u/ingrid_correia8 points·9 months ago

Tolerance to the gastric effect develops with continued exposure while the appetite effect largely persists. That single fact explains most of the "it settles but it still works" pattern the side-effect board reports.

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u/asks_dumb_questions7 points·9 months ago

the central appetite effect is doing more work than the gut effect

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u/bastian_eriksen6 points·9 months ago

GIP is the arm people argue about because the biology is genuinely unsettled

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u/aa_analysis_andy34 points·9 months ago

Asked a question here that I thought was stupid and got three papers back. Best thread I have been in on this site.

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u/marisol_kravchenko15 points·9 months ago

Cosigning on GIP. The genuinely interesting thing is that the biology is not settled and the clinical result is nonetheless robust.

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u/sanne_delgado10 points·9 months ago

Correction: that is glucose-dependent insulin secretion, which is why hypoglycaemia risk is low as monotherapy. Not the same claim as you made.

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