[Discussion] we are measuring New Zealand at the wrong time and calling it noise
The title is the argument: we are measuring New Zealand at the wrong time and calling it noise. Here is the rest of it.
Registration by the therapeutic goods regulator establishes that a product may be supplied. Subsidy listing is a separate decision about public funding, with its own criteria and its own timetable.
On the compounded supply question, which changed and left a trail of superseded threads.
The arrangements that governed compounded supply here have changed materially, and a great deal of what is written on this board describes the previous position. Search results do not carry a date warning, so people arrive at old threads and act on them.
If you are reading anything on this subject here, check when it was posted and check the current official position before relying on it. And if you know the current position well, writing it up plainly with a date on it is probably the single most useful thing anyone can post on this board this year.
Where to look instead of asking, which will nearly always be faster.
The national shortage database is public, searchable and carries expected resolution dates. The subsidy criteria for each indication are published. Your pharmacist can check wholesaler availability in a few minutes, which is a different question from what is on the shelf.
Between those three, most questions on this board are answerable in half an hour with primary sources. The board is genuinely useful for experience, pricing comparison and the parts that are not written down anywhere — it is a poor substitute for a document that exists.
Ask me anything specific. Anything general I will probably get wrong.
best — the order this archive was captured in
Left up. It links the primary database rather than coverage of it, which is what we ask for.
Correction: that is the registration decision, not the subsidy listing. They are made by different bodies.
Kept the script and the receipt for a private health claim and both were requested.
Correction: that is the registration decision, not the subsidy listing.
This is the distinction that makes the rest of the board legible.
Subsidy criteria and authority requirements are published. For eligibility questions those documents are authoritative and this board is not.
Yes — importing US threads into an Australian question produces confident nonsense every single time.
Pharmacy-level availability and national supply are different questions: a pharmacy can be out while the wholesaler is not, and the pharmacist can check in minutes.
Have you checked the shortage database directly?
the shortage listing has an expected resolution date on it
That figure is a private price at one pharmacy, not a national one.
Pharmacy-level availability and national supply are different questions: a pharmacy can be out while the wholesaler is not, and the pharmacist can che
Adding the quickest step — ask the pharmacist to check the wholesaler.
The national shortage database is a primary source with expected resolution dates attached. It is public, searchable, and consistently more accurate than reporting about it.
Right, and the compounded supply position moved. Threads from two years ago are describing a different situation.
PBS criteria are published and searchable
Did the pharmacy check with the wholesaler, or is that a shelf observation?
personal importation rules exist and are narrow
Rang three pharmacies for a private price and got three different numbers, all in the same city.
a streamlined authority code is not the same as a general listing
a streamlined authority code is not the same as a general listing
blunt_coldbox_2024 is right that the two countries are separate systems and the answers diverge.
the price you pay depends on the listing status of your indication
Personal importation provisions exist, are narrow, and carry conditions. Any summary of them here should be checked against the current official wording rather than a forum post.
Push back: the compounded arrangements changed and the advice you are quoting predates the change.
say which state only if it matters, but always say which country
Small fix — that is the New Zealand arrangement, and the question is about Australia.
Is this about registration or about subsidy?
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