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c/vendorvetting·posted 2 years ago by u/camila_sandvik

how much of what we believe about Janoshik actually comes from vendor threads

Lab Sourced ×6 Slow Clap ×2

Asking properly rather than in a comment on somebody else’s thread: how much of what we believe about Janoshik actually comes from vendor threads.

Inter-lab variance on this assay runs a point or two either way. Two services disagreeing by that much is agreement, not a discrepancy, and treating it otherwise starts pointless arguments.

Asked ERP for the batch record on a Tuesday and had the full document, batch and method line, before the end of the day. That is the bar now.

A certificate with a purity figure and no method line is not falsifiable. You cannot reproduce it, you cannot check it, and it tells you nothing about how the number was produced.

I will update this if the picture changes rather than quietly leaving it up.

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u/fibre_forward252 points·2 years ago

Lead time and minimum quantity are the two facts people forget to ask for and then argue about later. Both are answerable in one email before you commit.

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u/nordic_pricing175 points·2 years ago

Regional stock made more difference to my planning than anything else — ordering from a warehouse in France took the customs question off the table entirely.

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u/naomi_ekstrom134 points·2 years ago

Regional stock made more difference to my planning than anything else — ordering from a warehouse in France took the customs question off the table en

nordic_pricing is describing the batch record test and it is the fastest signal available before you spend anything.

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u/zofia_lindholm142 points·2 years ago

Where a supplier holds regional stock, ask which lines are actually held there rather than drop-shipped. It changes the lead time and it changes the customs question.

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u/batch_number_bertieMOD81 points·2 years ago

Flair set to Vendor. Also a reminder that we take no money from any supplier in the directory.

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u/receipts_or_nothingvetting62 points·2 years ago

Same view. A record you can read beats a rating you cannot inspect, every time.

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u/milos_vestergaard95 points·2 years ago

Small fix — the figure you quoted is the claimed purity from the certificate, and the independent result was the higher of the two.

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u/sofia_ferreira77 points·2 years ago

Fixing my own comment above: I said 9 orders and it is 3. The pattern is the same, the count was wrong.

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u/milos_vestergaard-26 points·2 years ago

ask for the batch record before you ask for a discount

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u/dario_petrescu42 points·2 years ago

This. Ask for the batch record. The ones who send it inside a day have told you more than any review could.

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u/titration_marshalmod · c/semaglutide47 points·2 years ago

Small fix — the figure you quoted is the claimed purity from the certificate, and the independent result was the higher of the two.

Would qualify this slightly. Fewer entries means less sampling, and less sampling is not the same as a worse process.

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u/throwaway_titration80 points·2 years ago·edited

Agree. The verification log is the part with the checkable facts in it; the number at the top is just a summary of a lot of averaging.

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