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c/glp1women·posted 1 year ago by u/pavel_nkemelu

fertility: what the trials say vs what this community says

PCOS

fertility: what the trials say vs what this community says. I have gone back and forth on this for months.

Fertility can change with weight loss and improved insulin sensitivity. That is a well-described phenomenon and worth knowing about in advance rather than discovering.

Insulin resistance is a common feature in PCOS, which is why the metabolic conversation overlaps so heavily with this board. A diagnosis and a finding are still different things and the distinction matters for what the evidence says.

Hormonal variation across the cycle affects appetite, fluid retention and subjective symptom intensity independently of anything else, which is why an unannotated log can look mysterious.

Tell me where this is wrong. That is the useful part of posting it.

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u/lipid_panel_larrybloodwork18 points·1 year ago

Why the evidence base here is thin, which is not your imagination.

The major trial programmes were designed around endpoints that do not answer most of the questions this board asks: cycle interactions, contraception, fertility, perimenopause. The populations were not enrolled to answer them and the endpoints were not chosen to measure them.

So when you search and find nothing, that is usually the actual state of the literature rather than a failure of searching. What follows practically: be precise about your question, take the pharmacology parts to a pharmacist who can look up product-specific information, and treat confident answers on this board — including the ones that agree with you — with more caution than usual.

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u/honest_syringe4 points·1 year ago

Why the evidence base here is thin, which is not your imagination.

Disagreeing with this line: the absorption question has a product-specific answer and a pharmacist has it.

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u/low_appetite_lisaMOD13 points·1 year ago

Retitled to distinguish a cycle-linked pattern from a dose-linked one.

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u/pavel_nkemeluOP8 points·1 year ago·edited

Retitled to distinguish a cycle-linked pattern from a dose-linked one.

Adding the one thing nobody warns about — fertility can change, and quickly.

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u/kaia_fonseca10 points·1 year ago

Started logging the cycle in the same sheet as the dose. Three months later the pattern was obvious and it had been invisible before.

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u/santiago_marchetti10 points·1 year ago

Careful — anything touching pregnancy is not a board question in any form.

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u/gustav_lindholm-10 points·1 year ago

The same dose genuinely feels different at different points in the month for me. Took a year to notice and it was in the log the whole time.

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u/jarno_karlsen1 point·1 year ago

the same dose can feel different at different points in the month

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u/ilias_kaufmann1 point·1 year ago

the trials were not designed to answer most of the questions asked here

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u/santiago_marchetti1 point·1 year ago

cycle timing changes how the same week feels

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u/zaid_grimaldi1 point·1 year ago

cycle timing changes how the same week feels

santiago_marchetti is right that a diagnosis and a finding are different things here.

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u/vitamin_d_void1 point·1 year ago

perimenopause and this overlap in ways nobody has good data on

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